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Behind the Burger
Stewardship First In New Mexico Ranching with Kimberly Stone
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The real story of New Mexico beef isn’t a TV montage of horses and hero shots. It’s drought math, grass management, and a daily promise that the cattle get water and care before anything else. From the New Mexico Cattle Growers office in Moriarty, we sit down with Kimberly Stone, a fifth-generation rancher from Capitan, to talk about what it takes to keep a commercial cow-calf operation moving forward when the land and the world keep changing.
Kimberly shares what stewardship means on the ground: setting stocking rates that match what the native rangeland can handle, protecting soil health, and planning for the next dry stretch because it always comes. We also get into the human side of ranching, including the pride and pressure of raising two sons who love ranch life and may become the sixth generation. Along the way, she breaks down the gap between the romantic “Yellowstone” image and the real work of storms, feed trucks, and fence repairs.
We also talk about the choices ranch families make off the ranch: working in town for health insurance, navigating herd health concerns, and staying involved in organizations that defend and promote the beef industry. Kimberly reflects on a lesson that guides her approach to generational agriculture: respect your heritage, but don’t let it trap you. If you care about sustainable ranching, animal welfare, New Mexico agriculture, and how beef gets from grass to plate, this conversation will stick with you.
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Welcome back to another episode of Behind the Burger. I'm Caroline Romo, the Executive Director of the Mexico Beef Council. Joining me, we're here at the New Mexico Cattle Growers Office in Moriarty. And joining me is Kimberly Stone of Capitan, New Mexico. Kimberly, will you introduce yourself and thanks again for joining the podcast?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely, thanks so much for having me. So my name is Kimberly Stone. I grew up uh just north of Roy a little bit, uh between there and Springer at Mills, New Mexico. Uh my family has been there for over 120 years. Uh I married Troy Stone from down near Capitan, and his family's been there for 100 years this August. And we have two sons, Alec and Bryce. And so excited to be here with you today.
Carollann RomoAbsolutely. I think that's one of my favorite things about you. I think you've told me that both of you have have a hundred-year history in your ranching families. And isn't it five generations both?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, both Troy and I are fifth generation, and so Alec and Bryce are sixth, and we're really thankful for that opportunity.
Carollann RomoYeah, yeah, what a special thing. We we talk about that a lot in the podcast. That the generational exchange of ranching is pretty special. Not every business do you have that.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Yes.
Carollann RomoWe love that. So um tell us a little bit more about your operation. Tell me about your cattle.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. So we are commercial cow calf. Uh, you know, like most people. At one point there was Herford cattle, you know, and so then we moved in to uh put so putting Angus Angus bowls on, and so we're now mostly Angus cattle.
Carollann RomoHow do New Mexico's landscapes and climate shape the way you ranch?
SPEAKER_00You know, New Mexico is one such a unique state, and it's so beautiful in each part, and every part has something unique to offer, and so you have to be able to adjust no matter where you're at, right? So even from the difference from where I grew up up north down to where we're at, there's a significant difference. And so um you just have to be prepared for drought pretty much anywhere in the state. It doesn't matter, you're going to have it at some point or another. And so making sure that your stocking rates really truly represent what the land can handle because you've got to make sure you take care of that. That is the most important piece. You have to take care of the land. So that is our one of our number one goals is to make sure that we always have grass.
Drought Planning And Protecting Grass
Carollann RomoAbsolutely. I I I had a conversation with someone who who didn't have any familiarity with ranching and and just introducing the fact that ranching is based on native grasslands and and renewing those grasslands and and making sure that that soil is is healthy so that you can have again native grass. Um it's a really important part. You know, we're not out there, the cattle aren't just getting fed hay or grain all the time, um, in extreme measures, absolutely. But the first goal of a ranch, uh of a rancher is is grass. We want that native grass, right? Which is important to reiterate. Um, what do you think is the most rewarding part of being in the beef industry?
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh. Uh it's all rewarding, truly, every single day. I mean, you talked a little bit about um the heritage piece. That is extremely rewarding to be able to know that someday our kids can come back, uh, hopefully if they want to, right? Um, but that's that is extremely rewarding. But then I mean, it's a it is truly you go back biblically and people cared for livestock. And it's it truly makes me emotional to think that we get to do that every day. And I know my husband feels the very same way to get to be stewards of the land and of the livestock and to care for things.
Carollann RomoThat is what it's about. Absolutely. It's a it's a pretty special thing to be a part of, and we're grateful that that you guys are and are willing to. Um, what's one of the biggest challenges you face in your operation?
Rewards And Daily Responsibility
SPEAKER_00You know, challenges come in all shapes and form, right? We talked about drought. There can be challenges that are political in nature, challenges that are environmental in nature, but there's also just challenges in, and there's lessons to be learned every single uh generation, things, and you have to be willing to adapt and change. And so change is hard, but you have to know what's going on and you have to keep up with things. And so that can be challenging to shift your whole operation one direction or another because of some of those political pressures. Um, I mean, in our neck of the woods, uh, we don't have as many as some others do in the state. Um, but you have to be prepared for that because it could change at any single moment.
Carollann RomoAbsolutely. Uh the the challenges are often endless. Um can you give an example of how you care for your cattle to support their health and well-being?
SPEAKER_00Well, you know, it goes back to stewardship. Everything that my husband and my sons do on the ranch every single day is an example of caring for them. It's truly a moral obligation to make sure that they have water. That's first and foremost, right? Water and feed, we make sure that they have that before our house has water, right? I mean, they're the most important things in taking care of that. And that's just one example. I mean, herd health is very important. We have challenges with the screw worm on the border, right? Each operation is having to face what decisions are we gonna make this spring, right? Whenever you're branding, how are you going to care for those cattle to make sure that you're doing everything you can, that that doesn't come to your operation? There's no guarantees, but you just have to, once again, it's back to those challenges. You got to be paying attention to what's going on and understand what is going to be best for you and your operation.
Carollann RomoSo oh, absolutely. There's there's a a decision around every corner. Um, what is something that you're excited about in your operation right now?
Challenges And Herd Health Decisions
SPEAKER_00You know, I keep coming back to that piece of heritage. My oldest son is fixing to be 20 years old, my youngest son is 17, and both of them love ranching, and that is probably one of the most exciting things that they're asking the deeper questions about making sure that um they can come back and what that looks like, and to ensure that future generations can be there. And there's a lot of truly it's a lot of pressure in one sense as well, um, but a very exciting time nonetheless.
Carollann RomoOh, I bet I I think that would be that would be a lot of people's goals or or hopes that that their kid might want to come back, right? Right? You never want to force it, you never want to tell your kids what to do, but to have have that available to them is is pretty special. Absolutely. Uh what's one thing people don't realize, or most people probably don't realize, about raising beef in New Mexico?
SPEAKER_00Oh goodness, one thing people don't probably realize. Well, you know, the the TV show Yellowstone has definitely romanticized a lot of things for for agriculture across the board. It doesn't quite get that exciting. But I mean, it's it's a grind every single day. You know, we just had a really big storm that came through. Um, maybe people do realize that it doesn't matter. They've got to get out. They being my husband, my kids, me, even if needed, we have to get out and we have to make sure that those animals are all taken care of in that. And so it's uh it's a lot less horseback and fun and more more feed truck and things of that nature, building uh fixing fence. And so it's not as romantic, maybe every day as it always looks on TV.
Kids Returning And Life Beyond TV Cowboys
Carollann RomoOh yeah, oh yeah. We are we are grateful for the fact that it's cool to be a cowboy now, and I think Yellowstone helped with that, right? And that was, I think I I heard Taylor Sheridan speak one time. That's what he said. He wanted to make it cool to be a cowboy again, and and I feel like that's that's that's done, that's happened. It absolutely has. Uh, and and like you said, it's it's not as as uh romantic or and definitely not as wild in some ways. So tell me about your career and and how that is, because you uh which is a common story with ranchers, somebody works in town, right? Absolutely. Um and so tell me about kind of your path and with that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so uh I was very fortunate before my husband and I got married. I got to do some really neat things in Washington, D.C. And when we decided to start a family, it was very important for me to get to be home. And uh, over the course of the first uh five years of of having kids, we had the two two boys, as I mentioned before, Alec and Bryce, and our oldest son had some very severe health issues that were diagnosed uh when he was older. Uh and so I went to work because we needed health insurance, and I knew something was wrong with him. We just didn't know what it was, and the doctors weren't able to find it. So the medical bills were really racking up. And so at that point in time, I went to went to work in town because we had to have that health insurance, and it has definitely been a blessing to have that because more than just his medical pieces, there's a lot of accidents that happen on the ranch over the years, and so we have put that health insurance to good use, and I'm thankful that we had it. Um, but it also has allowed us to do to do other things as well that we're very thankful for.
Carollann RomoAbsolutely. And you've had you've had a a pretty neat career, very, very fun to see where you've been in the stories you have too. So um, I'm always in impressed and excited by that. And then and then tell me, so kind of aside from your career, you're also involved in a lot of organizations. So maybe maybe go into that and um um your New Mexico Beef Council, New Mexico cattle growers as well, and I'm sure there's others. But yeah, tell me about that and the and the want to be a part of those.
Working In Town For Insurance
SPEAKER_00Well, I think it and it ties back to even when my early career and my first job out of college, you know, I knew um I wanted to eventually go back to to the ranch, right? And I ended up meeting my husband. Um, and actually, funny story, when I went to work uh for Congressman Joe Skeen right out of college, his chief of staff, Suzanne Isold, she sat me down and we're having a conversation and she says, What is your plans? And I said, Oh, I'm just gonna be here for a little while. I have to go home and marry a New Mexico rancher. And that's exactly what I told her. And ultimately, three, four years later, I ended up doing that very thing, and she came to my wedding too. So um as we laugh about that now. But my goal was always to be involved in ranching, raise my family that way, if at all possible. But I wanted to do things that supported agriculture across the way. And I spent a little bit of time in the public school, but still, even there, I felt like I was being an advocate for beef and for what we needed to share with young uh young students. Um, my professional career and then my want to be on the boards all ties back to helping producers. At the end of the day, I want to make sure that other people's families and future generations can still be involved. And so, Beef Council, as you mentioned, uh New Mexico Cattle Growers, been a member of Cowbell's uh for many years, probably actually that might be the longest one since I was in college. I was a collegiate Cowbell. I used to go with my little granny Helmy and Rattone uh to the Cowbell meetings as a kid. So uh have been involved in that for a very long time, and then other civic organizations, uh, but at each one, just always making sure that there's an opportunity to talk about the importance of agriculture, the importance of stewardship, and the importance of what people in agriculture do every single day for our country and our world.
Carollann RomoThat's vital. Those those volunteers and and willing to work in the industry is vital, right? We have to we uh we want this this uh industry to continue on, and that's why I'm I'm eager to or grateful for my role in it that that um it's part of my my career, but it's it's such important, such an important industry. We all eat. That's that's uh I was at a dinner the other day and they said um so it was somebody else's phrase, but they said, if you eat every day, you're part of agriculture. Absolutely. And that's a pretty important thing. Um tell us about a hard lesson you've learned in the business, whether it's in the beef industry or maybe a a lesson from ranching. Um, but yeah, uh what's a what's a good lesson that that you've learned?
Advocacy And Serving Ag Organizations
SPEAKER_00So I think you know, the the the way I would define the lesson, because there's so many lessons actually, you know, but in generational ranching businesses, you have to learn from previous generations and what has happened. And I talked a little bit earlier about the importance of change. You know, Pete Bonds wrote an article, and I can't remember which publication it was in. It's been over 15 years ago, but he made a comment and he said, you can't let your heritage be a millstone around your neck. And that really resonated with my husband and I, both coming from very long lines of ranching and doing things a certain way. And you know, we when we read that, we just really took that to heart to say you have to respect the heritage, what all of your previous generations have done, but you have to be willing to be at the table to uh make the changes that you need to to stay viable. And so not maybe not the lesson you were looking for, but that's something that we have really taken away is that you have to be ready to change and make the changes when they're necessary. And sometimes those changes cost money, but you got to do it to get to the other side.
Carollann RomoSo this is one a question that I kind of added in. So I don't know, I don't know the best way to ask, but do you have a favorite story? So what's what's a is there a recent story of something? Maybe it's it's funny, maybe it's hard, maybe it's sweet. Um, I think you kind of told me one earlier about the bottle calves um and their names.
SPEAKER_00Uh but yeah, do you have a do you have a favorite story that you'd like to tell? Gosh, there's so many stories and so many wonderful memories over the years of getting to raise our boys on the ranch. I mean, there's things that um, you know, times when the kids fell in the water tanks, or you know, just just things like that that stick out in my mind. But you mentioned the bottle calf, and so the first year my husband and I bought the cows, um, you know, that's a lot of debt to take on right there. And we were young and and um had a baby on the way, all of the things. And the first heifer that calves, um, she ends up dying. And so Troy brings the bottle calf up, you know, and we're loving on it and need a name, and I named it in the red because that's where he put us, you know. He killed killed that first heifer that we had. And so anyway, um lots of lots of little things like that. We're just thankful to get to do it. I don't know. I every day is is a blessing, truly, it is.
Carollann RomoAbsolutely. Well, and I think it's a sweet story and a good reminder that that when something happens to to you know, a heifer or a cow, those babies still have to be cared for, right? And so that's why you have bottle calves, and that's that's the uh the endless uh need to take care of them because it means it's an investment, because we love the animals, because we care for the whole situation and and uh all of that. So that's a that's a great story. I'm I'm glad you told me that before the before the we started recording, because I I think in the red sounds adorable. Um what's the best piece of advice you've ever received?
SPEAKER_00Wow, that's uh that's hard to hard to really pinpoint because I receive so much. But bottom line, end of day, it doesn't matter. You keep God at the center of everything and you pray about all things, and that is the single best advice that anybody, in my opinion, can give or receive.
Carollann RomoThat's great advice. Um what's something people might not know about you outside of ranching? So we talked career, we talked uh ranching. What's what's something else about you?
SPEAKER_00Uh so this is kind of funny and probably something that I I'm sure not many people know, but in 2001, I was um going to Washington, D.C. Actually, it was January of 2002, excuse me, and uh going to Washington, D.C. And there is a uh event in Washington in March, and it's called the the Cherry Blossom Festival. And so each state puts together um a representative, and you get to be a part of the festival, and it is called the Cherry Blossom Princess. And so I'm not very princessy at all, but I got to represent New Mexico in that event. It was a week-long uh series of events. They took us all over Washington, D.C. I learned so much about the city, the history, the history of how we have uh cherry blossoms along the tidal basin. I got to unveil uh a New Mexico State stamp at the at the postal um office there. And so very neat experience. And I'm I'm thankful that I had that opportunity, even if the word princess is in the title.
Carollann RomoOh, I love that. I love that. That is so such a neat story and such a neat experience. Like I said, you your uh your career and your background has has uh has always been interesting to I think all of us. You always have have something. Well, when I was working here, oh my gosh, you did that too. That's really cool. Really cool and and great to know the uh the places you can go as a as a fifth generation rancher. You're still heart is at the ranch, but um, but often we have to we have to work in DC. We have to do things. Um so why do you do what you do? What keeps you going even on the hard days?
Work Ethic Faith And Career Lessons
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. So it's definitely because it's it's a it's a privilege, it's an opportunity to get to be stewards of the land and take care of the cattle and show the kids uh what it's like to do this every day because it's hard. It is not something you don't turn in at five o'clock, right? You don't have every weekend to just work in the yard or do those things. It is early mornings, late nights, all the things. And that is what's always kept my husband and I going. And then for um from a professional standpoint, uh the trajectory that my career has taken. I've been able to work in Washington, D.C., as I mentioned, for a member of Congress. I was a Bush appointee of the Department of Agriculture, where I got to see way more than just the beef industry. I mean, every single industry that the United States have has, even in shrimping and things that are not at all something we would see in New Mexico. I got to learn a little bit about each of those. And that was so neat to see because just like you said, if you eat, you're involved in it somehow, and you think about all the work that those people in agriculture do just to touch the entire world, it's pretty, pretty fascinating. And then now working in the crop industry, crop insurance industry, uh, working for the underwriting companies and now doing um private contract work for them, every day. Something that I do is helping some farmer or some rancher somewhere continue to provide a living for their family doing what they love. And ultimately that's what it's about.
Carollann RomoThat's absolutely great inspiration to to keep going and inspiration to uh yeah, get through get through hard days. Um, is there anything that you'd like people to better understand about the beef industry? So if we're talking to consumers, what what what do you want them to know about the beef industry?
SPEAKER_00That the food pyramid was just put the shape it should have been with protein at the top. And I do personally believe that beef is the most complete protein that we can have. Um I eat wildlife, I eat chicken, I eat pork, I eat seafood. But when I know I want something that's going to completely satiate me and give me the most nutrients, I am eating beef. I believe that that is the best thing to do. I also try to eat much more of a carnivore diet uh than than not, but occasionally I will falter and eat a lot of chips and salsa because you know I am from New Mexico, so that's okay.
Carollann RomoIt's hard not to. It's hard not to, but it's not any salsa. It's New Mexico salsa, right? We can't go. We can't go uh we can't eat chips and salsa when we leave the state usually.
SPEAKER_00Um But yeah, the beef, the beef industry as a whole, I mean, it's so important the work that ranchers are doing because they're working to improve every part of the animal. And then we use so much of the animal, right? Just and and maybe things that we might not use here in the United States, we're able to send overseas, just like liver burgers and things like that that are the uh the U.S. Meat Institute is working on on getting in other parts of the world. And so it's amazing to me just how we utilize everything and uh the effort that ranchers are putting in to improve the quality of the animals. We're killing heavier animals, right, than we have before and providing more beef out of a single carcass. And that's very important, especially as we look at those numbers decreasing and continued drought across the West. Um, there's a lot of great things that the beef industry does.
Carollann RomoI I also want people to know those things. Uh I think excellently excellent uh way to put it. Um What advice would you ha give someone who wants to follow in your footsteps, whether it be ranching, whether it be um um uh volunteering or or even in a career to to help you know subsidize the ranch? What what advice would you give someone?
Beef Nutrition Better Industry Understanding
SPEAKER_00God's at the center of absolutely everything you do. Don't make a decision without praying. And he will guide you, and you need to trust your gut, because that gut is the Holy Spirit, and he is going to tell you exactly what you need to do. And if you do that, the other things are going to absolutely fall into place. And you should probably make it a point to work extra hard as well. And I will tell a little story about working hard and just the the reputation that people who come from production backgrounds have. So when I went to work in Washington, DC, I spent a year with the congressman, and then I was fortunate enough to be a political appointee in the Bush administration. And I started there working for one of the administrators, and I gotta tell you, it was pretty boring. I mean, he's had me reading some stuff. It was no, I mean, I was it was pretty boring. Well, two or three weeks into that, I meet the undersecretary and we get to talking, and he asks me about my background. I explained to him I grew up on a ranch, and he said, you know, I'm looking for somebody to help me in my office, and I do not work with anybody who does not have production ag background experience. Experience. And so that stuck with me all of these years that farm kids work hard, ranch kids work hard and they know how to work. And if you will trust God and work hard, the sky's the limit. Because I was a little bitty country girl, very country dumb. There's so many examples of that going to Washington, D.C. And I have been so fortunate. I've traveled to all but one state in our country. I've been in our country. I've been to eight um countries internationally. I've interacted with heads of state, all the things, and it has truly been because I was taught a good work ethic and to believe in God.
Carollann RomoYeah, have faith and work hard. That's that should be a bumper sticker. It probably is. Excellent, excellent advice again. So now kind of my favorite question. Um, what's your current favorite way to eat beef or maybe a go-to recipe?
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. So I I'm pretty simple when it comes to beef. I love steak. Probably most people do, but I love a steak cooked on um our smoker. I have a yoder smoker, and so I will put that on there low and slow. And I only use salt. I don't use any other, no binders, no anything else. I just season it with salt, uh, occasionally a little bit of pepper, but honestly, I just like the salt low and slow until it's a perfect medium rare temperature, somewhere around 125-ish, maybe, um, a little bit more than that. And yeah, that's how I like to do it.
Carollann RomoExcellent way to, excellent way to eat it. Uh do you uh is there anything when we were we've we've been um I've been chasing you down for a podcast and I appreciate your time. Is there anything when we were doing it that you thought, man, I want to make sure and say this or or um get this point across? Is there anything else that you kind of had in your mind that you wanted to include?
SPEAKER_00You know, I have to say that what is on my mind based on some some discussions that I've had recently, actually with young moms who are struggling with that decision of what do I do? You know, do I need to go to work in town? Do I need to stay home? What do I do when you want to be with your kids? And I I'll I'll come back to that piece of you've got to trust God to do what's right for your decision, for you and your family, right? And you can't let anybody else influence that decision, no matter what. You have to do what is best for you and your family. I just made a huge decision to walk away from a job that was very rewarding. I love the job, but it took me away from home. And yes, I one of one of the people I work with said, Well, what are you gonna do? I'm gonna stand with my baby. Like, baby? I said, Yeah, he's 17, but he's my baby. I still want to be be home with him for that last year and a half. So as moms, we are faced with so many decisions and they're emotional decisions. But at the end of the day, you have to do what is best for you and your family, no matter what that looks like and what other people say. And again, it I'm gonna say it again. You gotta pray and and trust, trust the Holy Spirit as he moves in you to help you make those decisions. But it's okay to stay home with your babies. It is absolutely okay to do that because there's a season you can always work, but you cannot get that time back with your babies.
Advice For Young Moms And Season Of Life
Carollann RomoAbsolutely, absolutely. I think there that same advice, uh trust God, work hard, um, kind of goes to being a mom too, right? So I know uh I'm grateful that that working in the agriculture industry, especially specifically, excuse me, working in the beef industry, that my kid can come sometimes, right? And and um family comes to the center of every conversation we have. And and yeah, as a as a mom, we are always questioning what we should do, what the right thing to do. And it's different for every family, and and I'm grateful that that I have a job and I I work and and I'm but that's because I have grandma and nana that that will take care of or grandpa today um who will take care of our daughter, and and so we have this unique thing um where she can come with me and all of that. So yeah, that there's that I love that advice, and I love that that absolutely you you gotta cherish your kids while you can. And there's there's only a few years. Mine's mine already thinks she's 16 and she's four. Uh she's already telling me what to do.
SPEAKER_00She's the only good thing she's just getting started at that, I'm sure.
Carollann RomoYeah, the only good thing is she she does tell us we uh we tell her we're saving for her college, and she says, I don't want to go to college, I want to stay with you guys. We're like, Yeah, you should do that, actually. Absolutely. Right now we want you to stay home too. But excellent advice for for a mom and and congratulations on on your recent career change and and um yeah, very excited to see see how that how that goes and and all that. Well, thank you for being on the podcast. We so appreciate what you do. I think most importantly, thank you for your work as uh a beef council board member, as a representative of New Mexico on the National Uh Cattlemen's Beef Association Federation Executive Committee, if I can say that right. We so appreciate that you're representing us, uh representing New Mexico on that national uh stage. And and thank you especially though for the work you do to help feed the world. Uh we need ranchers, we need people willing to make the hard choices, make the sacrifices, uh, so that we can enjoy a nice steak anytime we want, because we do live in a country and a in a city and a town or or you know, a time where we can do that. So thank you for for that effort and thank you for continuing on and inspiring the sixth generation. Um, and again, just thank you for for all you do and thanks for being on the podcast.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. I look forward to uh continuing to serve because I do enjoy it.
Carollann RomoSo absolutely, thank you so much. And eat more beef. Absolutely. Behind the Burger is produced by the New Mexico Beef Council to celebrate the people and stories behind New Mexico beef. Thanks for listening. Follow the show so you never miss an episode and connect with us on social media for more behind the scenes stories and updates. You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube at NM Beef and on Facebook at NM Beef Council. We'll see you next time. And until then, beef, it's what's for dinner.